tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post3621180544588838488..comments2024-03-24T08:30:43.258+01:00Comments on FLY HIGH!: AN ACADEMIC VIEW OF NORTH & SOUTH - PART IMaria Graziahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-75154215307038160432011-06-05T17:26:04.175+02:002011-06-05T17:26:04.175+02:00I read the book both in Spanish and English becaus...I read the book both in Spanish and English because I always think Im missing something when reading a translation over the original. Then, a few years ago, I discovered the BBC version. Im not usually very happy about screen adaptions, but this one got me from the very first snow-white hell. Reading both of the essays has let me notice some things I didnt before. So thanks for that. And good to have a a male point of view of the subject.<br />And as for the ending, I DO want a train station scene, perhaps the most disapointing thing about the book it was that cold end. We know its Victorian, but never happened that to me before with the Austen, the Brontes, etc. <br />I know Im partial because of my addiction to some TDHMO but really... The script was pretty faithful to the original, can we not let it be a little naughty just by the end so we can finally enjoy the best kiss scene ever?<br /><br />Sorry for my speech and the misspeling - keyboard has its own mind these days.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13908560471560257675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-57907107700843524252011-06-05T09:12:38.871+02:002011-06-05T09:12:38.871+02:00@Onemorelurker @JaneGS
Glad you could find a way t...@Onemorelurker @JaneGS<br />Glad you could find a way to comment, I'm always happy when I get your interesting contributions. <br />Though I've found them extremely interesting, I'm sure we didn't need to read academic essays to be convinced this series is very good. I'm just glad I've found illustrious academic experts who agree with us and wanted to share!<br />P.S. Impossible not to be touched by the railway station scene, purist or not.Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-24479239274526663882011-06-04T23:46:21.199+02:002011-06-04T23:46:21.199+02:00I loved reading your commentary on this paper--now...I loved reading your commentary on this paper--now I have to read it for myself! I agree with the author regarding the additional scenes as well as the criticism of the changing of Mr. Bell, whom I loved in the book. I have never thought Mr. Thornton's beating of the worker gratuitous--in fact, I think it essential to show that Thornton is a "hard" master, but hard to a purpose, and it sets Margaret absolutely against him from the outset. I also love the railway kiss at the end--despite purists cry that the characters would never act that way, by the time they kiss they have transcended the workaday world, and are in a dreamlike place called love where kissing is very much allowed :)<br /><br />JaneGS from Reading, Writing, Working, PlayingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-54167343334140869942011-06-04T18:41:16.236+02:002011-06-04T18:41:16.236+02:00I must admit I have only read the book once and wa...I must admit I have only read the book once and watched many times the tv adaptation :P so train station scene for me please!<br /><br />I'm not totally conscious of some victorian rule's so I wouldn't know a gentleman 'wouldn't travel with his shirt open at the neck' but maybe it states JT has let go some of his natural victorian restrains and so 'allowing' the more expressive train station scene...<br /><br />Thanks for give us a resume of the essay, very interesting.<br /><br />OML :)OneMoreLurkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-16350436279803158062011-05-12T07:46:28.191+02:002011-05-12T07:46:28.191+02:00@Phylly3
Same here. I can't choose between the...@Phylly3<br />Same here. I can't choose between the two endings, but I'm sure one is perfect for a novel, the other one for the screen. Thanks, Phylly!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-13922039553723984392011-05-12T03:18:27.777+02:002011-05-12T03:18:27.777+02:00I love both the book and the adaptation. I usually...I love both the book and the adaptation. I usually don't like films to stray too far from the written word. In this case I saw the miniseries first -- and although I knew that the last scene was not something that would have been acceptable to Victorians, I was too much in the moment to argue with myself! The book was a revelation and I like that ending as well, but it just wouldn't have been as interesting to watch. <br />Nice to read others opinions. N&S is endlessly fascinating! :)Phylly3https://www.blogger.com/profile/10551254554577516351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-75979653272418860762011-05-07T10:45:51.313+02:002011-05-07T10:45:51.313+02:00Hi Becky, thanks for your suggestion! I'm afra...Hi Becky, thanks for your suggestion! I'm afraid that listening to the audiobook would be even harder than reading the text, because I couldn't re-read the obscure passages. I easily understand lyrics when listening to pop music, but that's a different matter. However, if the audiobook can be downloaded for free, I'm definitely going to try. I didn't know it. Personally, I love audiobooks too, although they're not so popular in Italian publishing.<br /><br />Thanks again to both of you!Claudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03392025518428560808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-53825999316378998142011-05-06T22:36:48.942+02:002011-05-06T22:36:48.942+02:00@Becky
Hello there! Good point about audiobooks bu...@Becky<br />Hello there! Good point about audiobooks but... if Claudia's got problems with the written text, maybe the audio can sound much more difficult to decipher. Let's see what she thinks of yiur suggestin... I personally love audiobooks! <br />Thanks for your contribution! MGMaria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-12707693536482766992011-05-06T22:12:03.290+02:002011-05-06T22:12:03.290+02:00I have to admit I do like that final train sequenc...I have to admit I do like that final train sequence (just a softy, I guess). Claudia, you might try listening to the book (it's free at Librivox). I listen to classics all the time when I'm running, which I enjoy much more than listening to music.Beckyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12603610288075750816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-74631349602978311362011-05-06T16:18:32.964+02:002011-05-06T16:18:32.964+02:00I agree with you, Claudia. An Italian translation,...I agree with you, Claudia. An Italian translation, a good one I hope, is something definitely required.Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-82292730160651081042011-05-06T08:51:05.391+02:002011-05-06T08:51:05.391+02:00Unfortunately I can't make a comparison betwee...Unfortunately I can't make a comparison between the book and the adaptation since I haven't read the book till the end. I tried more than once but I don't enjoy it entirely because of my "linguistic obstacles". Do you think, Maria Grazia, will ever be a smart publisher who will give us an Italian edition? I'm still hoping :)<br />Ciao, ClaudiaClaudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03392025518428560808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-26231621201326205022011-05-05T21:28:49.829+02:002011-05-05T21:28:49.829+02:00@Joanna and Aldebaran
Thanks for dropping by and c...@Joanna and Aldebaran<br />Thanks for dropping by and commenting. I'm really glad you agree with me. I think this scene is so well played that one could believe everything's possible, even in a Victorian railway station ;-)Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-29978182738347180792011-05-05T21:16:29.833+02:002011-05-05T21:16:29.833+02:00I love both movie and book, each is wonderful in i...I love both movie and book, each is wonderful in its way. But the train scene...was when I absolutely fell in love with RA. <br />Great post and pics, Thanks MG.<br />AldebaranAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-61826319986169061462011-05-05T20:25:04.287+02:002011-05-05T20:25:04.287+02:00OMG no"trailway station scene"at all? A ...OMG no"trailway station scene"at all? A clue-nooo!<br />I worship every second of that movie:):)<br />JoannaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-41624613268327723882011-05-05T10:22:42.357+02:002011-05-05T10:22:42.357+02:00Since we've already discussed this subject, yo...Since we've already discussed this subject, you know we must agree to disagree, nevertheless we keep our friendship safe :D<br />I usually can't stand adaptations which aren't true to the novels, but somehow in this case I can forgive Sandy Welch for her pardonable lapse ;-P<br />x K/VAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-35924748217126306552011-05-04T23:21:51.717+02:002011-05-04T23:21:51.717+02:00@K/V
And, by the way, I forgot to say that, if you...@K/V<br />And, by the way, I forgot to say that, if you want to have a very Victorian ending, you just have to open Elizabeth Gaskell's novel. You'll fight your perfect, ideal ending there. This is Sandy Welch's finale, not appropriately Victorian , but so definitely good for a TV drama.The best ending EVER!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-42520730835325512382011-05-04T23:17:37.061+02:002011-05-04T23:17:37.061+02:00@K/V
I still wonder how we can possibly be friends...@K/V<br />I still wonder how we can possibly be friends ...I'll find an answer sooner or later ...Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-4710738651313285722011-05-04T22:38:18.281+02:002011-05-04T22:38:18.281+02:00I know I'm in the minority here, but I must co...I know I'm in the minority here, but I must confess I would have appreciated a more faithful Victorian ending, even if that would have meant no "railway station scene" at all. <br />Thank you MG for reminding me of this very interesting essay, I'll try to read more of it, although the pictures are quite distracting ;)<br />xx K/VAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com