tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post8223653876250216583..comments2024-03-24T08:30:43.258+01:00Comments on FLY HIGH!: RICHARD III AT BOSWORTH. WHAT REALLY HAPPENED? - READING MILITARY HISTORY MONTHLYMaria Graziahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-82344744844010417362011-12-23T07:11:02.589+01:002011-12-23T07:11:02.589+01:00This is a very late comment. And it was prompted b...This is a very late comment. And it was prompted by servetus' Legenda. Keeping up with all favourite posts over December, with all the other things the month brings...<br />But, I read The Daughter of Time at 13/14, and have been a Ricardian ever since, (and reading all the other Tey/Alan Grant novels since.) And highly recommend Tey. I was even a member of the Richard III Society and have been reading And history. <br />As a history grad, and librarian, I have become more open to less-optimal explanations of Richard's involvement in his nephews death. But the questions remain. And some things remain pretty well documented - Richard III was a great Lord of the North, an advocate of his king/brother, a very good administrator. In a time of civil war, without forensic evidence, and with the subsequent Tudor "documentation" highly suspect, how do we judge.<br /><br />In short, an exploration of an historical person in a better historical drama than that of the Bard, would be welcome. Warts and all. Preferably the non-documented hunchback. :)<br /><br />fitzgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-71903839090334639702011-12-17T05:36:16.140+01:002011-12-17T05:36:16.140+01:00This is a great essay and link to "more to co...This is a great essay and link to "more to come." I had been researching Richard a lot lately, though had to concede early on to slow down and take smaller bites, as I am *way* out of my league on this one. My degree is not in history and I am pretty inexperienced in researching military theory and manuevres. <br /><br />However, it interests me a great deal and so essays/articles as here do a lot for my understanding and satisfaction. I, too, have grown rather fond of Richard and am very pleased to have come across the writings of someone else who approaches the topic with an open mind (sans the auto condemnation) and bears an actual *feel* for the events and real people who lived through them.<br /><br />Hope to see more from you!Lislnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-11175543251439291702011-12-09T18:35:53.457+01:002011-12-09T18:35:53.457+01:00@OneMoreLurker
Sad indeed! At least, there are ma...@OneMoreLurker<br />Sad indeed! At least, there are many people interested in making the truth known. It makes everything a bit less sad.<br />Thanks for passing by!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-86515280850796796082011-12-09T13:29:38.756+01:002011-12-09T13:29:38.756+01:00Thanks for this post MG, it's interesting to k...Thanks for this post MG, it's interesting to know a little more about that battle, that was a result no one expected because apparently Richard had the upper hand. <br /><br />His, was a sad ending and in general the way the Yorkist line ended was sad.<br /><br />OML :)OneMoreLurkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-26156348477869916182011-12-07T21:31:17.174+01:002011-12-07T21:31:17.174+01:00Thanks Barbara for linking to that review and tell...Thanks Barbara for linking to that review and telling us about your novel. I read about on The Richard III Society facebook page. And, of course, I've visited the Richard III website! <br />Thanks for visiting and commenting.Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-55492270161601621352011-12-07T09:12:10.994+01:002011-12-07T09:12:10.994+01:00A really interesting post. Thanks for putting it u...A really interesting post. Thanks for putting it up. Richard III is one of my great heroes too - and the enigma of the Battle of Bosworth is still being argued by historians. (The devious and expert general on the Tudor side seems to have been De Chandee, a highly experienced French mercenary.)<br />For all her story-telling skills, Philippa Gregory is certainly no historian, but Sharon Kay Penman's book is a splendid read.<br />Can I mention my own? This is the link to the Richard III Society review of my medieval adventure novel which actually starts on the Bosworth battlefield.<br />http://www.richardiii-nsw.org.au/?p=6512<br />The Richard III website (www.richardiii-nsw.org.au)also holds a wealth of fascinating information and is well worth a look for all history lovers.Barbara Gaskell Denvilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-52942343293040867792011-12-06T21:19:39.047+01:002011-12-06T21:19:39.047+01:00@Maribea
You know I've read Philippa Gregory&#...@Maribea<br />You know I've read Philippa Gregory's White Queen recently, but I wouldn't compare her to Sharon Kay Penman's work. Ms Penman worked on her "The Sunne in Splendour" for about 12 years before publishing it and the result is extraordinarily beautiful. I hope you'll find the time to read it. It's quite an engaging reading (more than 900 pages) but it's worth it. <br />Thanks for your contribution, MB!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-57995949422850826202011-12-06T15:27:07.346+01:002011-12-06T15:27:07.346+01:00Hi Maria Grazia, I know how much involved with Ric...Hi Maria Grazia, I know how much involved with Richard's life you became after reading that book. I got a completely different image reading Philippa Gregory...as always, truth is difficult to detect and prove...but I think I want to read that book as soon as possible. Intriguing historical men and women are so fascinating to me!maribeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01559927224289036163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-83305839051452191942011-12-05T23:15:29.951+01:002011-12-05T23:15:29.951+01:00@Rachel
Hi, Rachel. Thanks for your support and yo...@Rachel<br />Hi, Rachel. Thanks for your support and your enthusiasm.Kisses to you!<br />@JaneGS<br />I hope you'll find the magazine and will be able to enjoy the rest of the article. Moreover, I wish you'll get to visit Bosworth and the other sites <br />linked to Richard III's history.<br />Thanks for your comment!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-7581803293796885302011-12-05T21:35:16.610+01:002011-12-05T21:35:16.610+01:00Now you've got me wanting to read the whole ar...Now you've got me wanting to read the whole article myself. Fascinating post. Interesting to think of Bosworth as the last medieval battle, and I'm surprised that RIII was only the second king to die in battle.<br /><br />I would love to visit Bosworth myself.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-76071029671584797972011-12-05T20:56:25.348+01:002011-12-05T20:56:25.348+01:00My dear Grazia, loved this post because I love rea...My dear Grazia, loved this post because I love reading and knowing ever more. So interesting and now I'm so curious. Dear, I'd like to say too that I'm so and so happy and that I've sent you the email. Thanks a lot, with lots of kisses, Rachel :)))))))Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577823133079392953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-58724904787265838852011-12-04T22:26:32.459+01:002011-12-04T22:26:32.459+01:00Same for me, Sophia Rose.
I've started loving...Same for me, Sophia Rose. <br />I've started loving him, more than pitying, as a literary figure - as Dickon - thanks to Sharon Kay Penman, and now I want to discover more about the historical character.<br />Thanks to you for dropping by and commenting!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-47513246649106507482011-12-04T20:58:00.000+01:002011-12-04T20:58:00.000+01:00I enjoyed your review of the Military History arti...I enjoyed your review of the Military History article because I've always been interested in this period- last of the War of the Roses/beginning Tudors. I tend to pity Richard a little since most of my casual reading has been written by Ricardian sympathizers.<br /><br />Thanks for the posting.Sophia Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07909417504496472472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-21899429980428829422011-12-04T18:36:29.632+01:002011-12-04T18:36:29.632+01:00@Sam
As I say in the first part of my post, I'...@Sam<br />As I say in the first part of my post, I'm not at all interested in the military aspect either, but searching the truth about King Richard, I found this article quite interesting. <br />Thanks for passing by. Have a good Sunday!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-45022749069455703512011-12-04T17:15:34.826+01:002011-12-04T17:15:34.826+01:00Thanks for this interesting post. I have to admit...Thanks for this interesting post. I have to admit that I am more interested in the politics and dynasty side rather than the military history side, so it was nice for me to see something in that area summarised so clearly.Sam (Tiny Library)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16375434438465319913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-89383172363304838592011-12-04T17:15:34.509+01:002011-12-04T17:15:34.509+01:00Thanks for this interesting post. I have to admit...Thanks for this interesting post. I have to admit that I am more interested in the politics and dynasty side rather than the military history side, so it was nice for me to see something in that area summarised so clearly.Sam (Tiny Library)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16375434438465319913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-59132250932044624592011-12-04T16:19:12.320+01:002011-12-04T16:19:12.320+01:00@Alfie
I'm not English nor a scholar either ei...@Alfie<br />I'm not English nor a scholar either either. My interest in Richard III has grown little by little. However it started with The Sunne in Splendour, which I read for the reasons I mention in my review. But I think you might guess without reading it ;-)<br />@Musa/Fabo<br />I love Shakespeare too. Apoet, not a scholar. A genius who deserves to be forgiven. :-)<br />Thank you both for visiting and commenting. Have a good Sunday!Maria Graziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08876779286144473782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-14735782741681888332011-12-04T15:34:34.028+01:002011-12-04T15:34:34.028+01:00Very interesting post and article in Military His...Very interesting post and article in Military History magazine. Though I love Shakespeare it is good to get the historical details of what happened at Bosworth so we all know the difference between a play and history. <br /><br />Thank you MariaMusa/Fabonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5114395886235179043.post-14047488459815436002011-12-04T14:33:44.717+01:002011-12-04T14:33:44.717+01:00Thank you for a very interesting post.I am not eng...Thank you for a very interesting post.I am not english and certainly not a scholar, so it is great when I can get these historical facts in small doses ;-)<br />I wish that I could take a trip like the one you described in"On the Footsteps of Richard III ". Sounds like a fantastic tour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com